Payson's here. As a new username :p

[HackFreeHVAC]

I've also just started a website to show examples of hackery I deal with.
www.hackfreehvac.com (http://www.hackfreehvac.com)

For some reason Hvac-Talk removed my link because I have a forum within my website. But it's not meant to be a fully featured HVAC Pro Forum like them or this one. So who knows why they were so picky. :shocked:

Anyway I have had like 3 or 4 techs from H-T email me about this new site so thought I'd finally sign up.

See ya around! :)

[karsthuntr]

Welcome aboard :D

[southern girl]

Welcome Payson glad you made it over here. I just love looking at your stuff.




NOW GET POSTING!!!! :D

[ct_hvac_tech]

Hey Payson, glad to see you finally made it over here.

They are a lot more laid back over here, so enjoy, and keep those pictures comming!

There's also a chat room over here that is usually open between 8 and midnight or so, so feel free to stop in!

[HackFreeHVAC]

Thanx. i hear it is laidback over here. :intheclub:


Welcome Payson glad you made it over here. I just love looking at your stuff.




NOW GET POSTING!!!! :D

Another female tech?
What name did you use on the other board?

[Doc]

Welcome aboard, we aren't picky about the pics here unless rep post them.

[Stephy]

Good to see ya........

Don't want to violate #3........But..........

Them pulling your link was so........petty...........I guess it's Big Bucks advertising.....

How many else will they alienate?

I really enjoy your pixs, although I'm afraid you have a up hill battle about permit inspections......:pain:

Around here the only thing that needs a permit is New construction, and if your a Good Ole boy...ya ain't gotta worry about that......:boid:

Welcome......
Do we still call you Payson??????

:D
Stephen

[southern girl]

something about the color green followed by a couple of mmmmmmmms

[Swampfox]

Welcome to the site

[Abby Normal]

welcome, has the cat landed on its feet yet

[ryan_the_furnace_guy]

What's up Payson?! Loooove your work! Keep on exposing the hack-masters and their evil hack-overlords!:thumb::thumb::thumb:

[Chilled Man]

Welcome aboard, we aren't picky about the pics here unless rep post them.
:loltard: who me never :tard:

oh and welcome payson :)

[KPS]

Hey glad to see to made it over here. Im sure you'll like it.

[GA-HVAC-Tech]

Hey Buddy,

Glad you are here!

Still read 'over there', but folks here are a lot more 'easy goin'... :)

[NZ All Blacks Fan]

You like Rugby? yes? then you can stay if not well there's no hope for you

[HackFreeHVAC]

welcome, has the cat landed on its feet yet
You talking about work? Not yet. But got some things cooking in the fire.





something about the color green followed by a couple of mmmmmmmms


I knew it. What do I win?




What's up Payson?! Loooove your work! Keep on exposing the hack-masters and their evil hack-overlords!:thumb::thumb::thumb:
Dude. You KNOW I will. But if I go commercial MAYBE the hackery count will drop. LOL! But I still have a mission to make more people in my area aware that the lack of code enforcement is contributing to a lot of new equipment to be installed improperly! :lachen:




Good to see ya........

Don't want to violate #3........But..........

Them pulling your link was so........petty...........I guess it's Big Bucks advertising.....

How many else will they alienate?

I really enjoy your pixs, although I'm afraid you have a up hill battle about permit inspections......:pain:

Around here the only thing that needs a permit is New construction, and if your a Good Ole boy...ya ain't gotta worry about that......:boid:

Welcome......
Do we still call you Payson??????

:D
Stephen
Yup I know it. But I got my frustration outlet flowing into my new website. And as i said to Ryan, I'll do something to make more people aware.

The last place I worked for laughed in my face when I preached about CODE or PROPER INSTALLATION and said I'd never change a thing and that nobody cares!

Boy that will change a little when it's the end user who cares! :eplus2:

[ralphtheplumber]

But if I go commercial MAYBE the hackery count will drop.
:lol:

[southern girl]

Hey payson do you still have that video of you on the roof top with the pigions and the crazy stalker music??????

[HackFreeHVAC]

Hey payson do you still have that video of you on the roof top with the pigions and the crazy stalker music??????

"Let the Bodies hit the floor" Pigeon Video?
Yeah but it wouldn't upload to photobucket. It gave me an error.

I may try again :loltard:

[Benncool]

# 1. Are you only taking and posting the pictures you take? I would love to post 2 I took of hack jobs. It would be great to have them on your site so I can tell the folks around here that it is not just me.

#2. Who do you think is going to remember a long handle like the one you picked.?????:shocked:

[southern girl]

"Let the Bodies hit the floor" Pigeon Video?
Yeah but it wouldn't upload to photobucket. It gave me an error.

I may try again :loltard:

Yep thats it Drowning Pool

Let the bodies hit the floor
Let the bodies hit the floor
Let the bodies hit the floor

[frozensolid]

Few men have the courage to stand on principle and it is a shame that they usually do so at their own peril. This is why so few are willing to do the right thing.

Don't bite the hand that feeds you though. If you don't like that hand, find a new one instead.

Welcome I think you should be hackbuster or the anti-hack. :)

[coleslaw]

welcome aboard Hackfree

It only gets worse with commercial, but the money is a hell of a lot better.

[Chilled Man]

Yep thats it Drowning Pool

Let the bodies hit the floor
Let the bodies hit the floor
Let the bodies hit the floor


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QNq8sHAyKc

:pbj::pbj::pbj::pbj::pbj:

[obx11]

For some reason (((I obx11 will not post that sites link I wont give em the thrill))))removed my link because I have a forum within my website. But it's not meant to be a fully featured HVAC Pro Forum like them or this one. So who knows why they were so picky. :shocked:


I know how you feel, They wont allow my link either. It is not at all hvac related and they keep removing it so I just stopped posting there. Swamp is cool just post no porn.

[Doc]

Swamp is cool just post no porn.

Or fat chicks.

[ryan_the_furnace_guy]

Or fat chicks.
This...might be a deal breaker? I will have to consider it! :bump::tard:

[Chilled Man]

Swamp is cool just post no porn.
just PM it to me then the world will be great .

but the only rule to abide by is #6 who cares about the rest :lachen:

[Magilla Gorilla]

What's up dude, welcome to the site.

[NZ All Blacks Fan]

hello payson

welcome -

[Andy G]

Welcome aboard, we aren't picky about the pics here unless rep post them.

Also not picky who they let in . . . I'm here.

[HackFreeHVAC]

:bump:Thanks all. :)


Hey payson do you still have that video of you on the roof top with the pigions and the crazy stalker music??????

Well neither youtube or photobucket would convert the file.
But here's where I had it stashed still... Die Pigeons Die! http://www.paysonarizona.net/Hackery/Videos/DIE_PIGEONS_DIE_2.rm (http://www.hvacproforums.com/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.paysonarizona.net%2FHackery%2FVideos%2FDIE_PIGEONS_DIE_2.rm)



# 1. Are you only taking and posting the pictures you take? I would love to post 2 I took of hack jobs. It would be great to have them on your site so I can tell the folks around here that it is not just me.

#2. Who do you think is going to remember a long handle like the one you picked.?????:shocked:
Well on my website I represent it as the local area. However it would be AWESOME if some other PROFESSIONAL frequented that forum and posted similar hackery and discussed it. You can upload pix to photobucket and copy and paste image tag on my forum like you can do here. ;)


Few men have the courage to stand on principle and it is a shame that they usually do so at their own peril. This is why so few are willing to do the right thing.

Don't bite the hand that feeds you though. If you don't like that hand, find a new one instead.

Welcome I think you should be hackbuster or the anti-hack. :)
Well I bit the hand and I'm not there anymore. I am starting a new job. :bump: But yeah, most people wont stand up for nothing when they KNOW they are in the right. Problem is most people in the business here in this area started in the business here and don't realize that this sh*t work isn't nomal everywhere! :tard:


welcome aboard Hackfree

It only gets worse with commercial, but the money is a hell of a lot better.
I have already found that out. When I worked for D.S.C. a few years ago they got lots of NASTY Commercial Work! Problem was they were a commission paid residential company. Thought they'd "get a piece of th ecommercial." So they used "girls in skirts" to go door to door to business' to talk to customers and sign people up on commercial maintenance programs. Problem was girls got paid on commission too. They tok any account even ones I said to "bid high and run!" :shocked:

Just look at my posts from 2 to 3 years ago! The only good ones from them were some McDonalds accounts and stuff. But lots and lots of 30 yr old units and sheer hackery! Not too mention all of the failed attempts at Pigeon control where lots of people here thought it was a good idea to contruct large nets across the entire commercial rooftop. It didn;t keep the Pigeons out, but made my work more difficult. i.e., check out "Die Pigeons Die!" video Country Girl was asking about and I linked here! :lachen:


Now I am going to be doing commercial work for a quality company who does some restaraunt chain and another LARGE chain of stores. They have accounts that need these units well maintained so they wont want shotty work or excess call backs there. And they are even UNION! I didn't think that existed here! It will be my first experience with that. :thumb:



BTW. I am hearing that the ex employers don't like people seeing their handywork on the internet. Even though they claimed it was just fine! Obviously they don't like professional critics discussing it on H-T, etc!
What is funny is that on their own website where they talk about how to select a good installation company like them it lists all these things to check and what is super funny is they have printed in their own words... "...ask to see installation photos. A dealer that is proud of work will be more than happy to show it to you." That is actually on their website!

And if I could show you the entire website it would crack you up! So many things contrare to how they actually were operating!

I hear that they think they can do something legally about my discussions on H-T and the pictures which have been annonymous. Only THEY would know who was being talked about because they already knoew who I was on that website. I have edited the pictures well to be nothing more than a Trane unit and a wall in almost all cases. But you know. It's the internet. What can they do? And I never mentioned names. I never planned on mentioning names. Just discussing the problem and eventually making local people aware of the problem with improper installations of these new High Efficiency Systems they paid $$$$ for t get what was advertised! That way I can cause some effect on everyone who wants to be a hack and in a round about way effect them.

If I get any heat on it whatsoever legally, I'm going to personally send all of the pictures to every news station and suggest they do an investigation on the proper installation of High Efficiency Systems. News stations love to do stories like that! As well as maybe give some info to their (arch enemy) local competitor that they continuously trash talked! :boid: Ha Ha Ha! He could be the "Good Guy" that goes on the news investigation and mentions Manufacture specs and Codes for proper install and to actually achieve the efficiency that was advertised!


Oh yeah... Does anyone know where I can get some pdf files or similar of where Trane gives installation specs for a XL19i condenser?

[southern girl]

preach it baby

[Abby Normal]

XL19 is more of a number for the HOs to look at, if you have the real model number it should be easy enough to search for something like

http://www.trane.com/webcache/un/split%20system%20air%20conditioners%20(ss)/service/18-ac54d1-3_11012006.pdf

[HackFreeHVAC]

XL19 is more of a number for the HOs to look at, if you have the real model number it should be easy enough to search for something like

http://www.trane.com/webcache/un/split%20system%20air%20conditioners%20(ss)/service/18-ac54d1-3_11012006.pdf (http://www.hvacproforums.com/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trane.com%2Fwebcache%2Fun%2Fsplit%2520system%2520air%2520conditioners%2520%28ss%29%2Fservice%2F18-ac54d1-3_11012006.pdf)

Yeah. You mean like 2TTZ9060A1000B
Got em memorized. Thanks for the link. Someone emailed it to me. And wha-do-you-know somehow some of them specs wound up on my website today!!!


www.hackfreehvac.com (http://www.hvacproforums.com/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hackfreehvac.com)

Click on "restricted condenser placement" and then page 1 of them Trane units and tell me what you think! :drool:



Oh yeah. No one mentioned this yet so i don't think any of you have found it yet....
Go to the Run Cap Bandit main page. Then scroll to the bottom. :D

[ryan_the_furnace_guy]

Go to the Run Cap Bandit main page. Then scroll to the bottom. :D
Holy Smokes!!! Not only have you actually 'seen' the Run Cap Bandit with your own eyes. BUT you caught him on camera! You are truly amazing Sir. When you calculate the actual speed with which he travels throughout this great land of ours installing boxed run capacitors, the odds of such an encounter were truly slim! Great Job!:thumb:

[southern girl]

http://www.paysonarizona.net/Hackery/Videos/DIE_PIGEONS_DIE_2.rm

I laugh every time I see that clip

[HackFreeHVAC]

Holy Smokes!!! Not only have you actually 'seen' the Run Cap Bandit with your own eyes. BUT you caught him on camera! You are truly amazing Sir. When you calculate the actual speed with which he travels throughout this great land of ours installing boxed run capacitors, the odds of such an encounter were truly slim! Great Job!:thumb:
And you will notice that when I almost caught him he dropped the supplies he had in his immediate possession and gave me the bird (whcih I edited out) just before he flew away!!!





http://www.paysonarizona.net/Hackery/Videos/DIE_PIGEONS_DIE_2.rm (http://www.hvacproforums.com/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.paysonarizona.net%2FHackery%2FVideos%2FDIE_PIGEONS_DIE_2.rm)

I laugh every time I see that clip
I know. That was awesome when I made that video. Too bad I can't find the original edit in standard avi or mpeg. Because it seams Photobucket and youtube don't like real media :(

[aircooled]

Well, it's about time you showed up. Post a few of those pictures of roof tops.
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/127/hvacguyvt2.gif

Run over that "RCB ":pow:if you see him in your area.

[HackFreeHVAC]

Well, it's about time you showed up. Post a few of those pictures of roof tops.
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/127/hvacguyvt2.gif

Run over that "RCB ":pow:if you see him in your area.

I'd throw his ass of of the roof. But I think he can fly, as I noted earlier! :shocked:

[oroy54]

We all know you as Payson. I have enjoyed your stuff for years. Heck I might as well change mine also. Life is tough for A boy named Sue. :)

[HackFreeHVAC]

We all know you as Payson. I have enjoyed your stuff for years. Heck I might as well change mine also. Life is tough for A boy named Sue. :)

LOL change MY user name?

I haven't lived/worked in Payson for over 6 years now. So I didn't want to use it for a new account. But I got it in my signature in case anyone gets curious. :bump: